The Diary of a PPC Newbie, and Why You Should Expand
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Ok. So those of you who know me know I’m an SEO guy. It’s how I promote. PPC is not really my thing. However, lately I’ve been giving a decent run to some PPC campaigns, and I’m getting relatively proficient with it. My progress has been slowed a bit because I hate feeling like a newbie and asking stupid questions(though it’s inevitable I suppose when just learning). But I thought I’d share my experiences thus far.
There will definitely be a Part2 to this post as long as the credit card bill and utter fear of my redirect webserver crashing don’t make me stroke out.
I’m stepping out on a limb here, and talking about something I’m new at, and not the best at. Any constructive criticism is welcome, but no abuse here please. I really prefer discussing stuff I know well haha.
My Stages as a PPC Newbie Thus Far
- Stage 1: Naivety
- The Concept
Thinking to myself “if I’m buying my way into the top slots of a search engine, why not target the big traffic niches I’d have trouble ranking for with SEO?” I set myself onto the task of ringtones. This is how I learned I do not give PPC affiliate marketers enough credit. I launched a scraper site with all the keywords I could find about them, and built up a decent keyword list from the resulting hits. Then I launched the campaign with a few ads, no ad groups. - The Result
Utter destruction of my cash reserve I set aside.
- The Concept
- Stage 2: Back to the Drawing Board
- The Concept
I decided to port my campaign over to MSN, reasoning that there would be less competition, and I would have less ability to demolish my budget so quickly. Not to mention, MSN’s PPC is one of the places I’ve had experience before. I through out my old list of ringtones, loaded up a huge list of artists, and launched a campaign where the artist name was rotated into the body. - The Result
Slight profit. Not enough of those terms actually get searches, and I’m becoming aware I’d need to dynamically generate a landing page for each artist to turn a profit. Users dislike not seeing their specific artist on the landing page for a specific artist search.
Also, MSN’s quality robot is being a pain in the arse disabling keywords for the low-content landing page. The ad gets disabled eventually due to this, and I decide to not revive it.
- The Concept
- Stage 3: I Get Learning
- The Concept
- I begin to frequent Wickedfire forums more, and associate more closely with PPC based affiliate marketers. I also begin reading UberAffiliate a fair amount, and picking up on a few tricks, and more importantly what it takes to profit. Sliding around IRC helps a bit to.
I begin launching some campaigns for Joebucks and experience some initial profit. Initially these die off though, and I’m a bit in the red. I decide to take the advice I’ve picked up a bit more and split into seperate ad groups, targeting the ads really tightly to the keywords. I’m skeptical at first, but the results pick the earnings back up considerably. I then switch the landing page to the order form rather than the homepage(I know, should’ve done that before), and it picks up a bit more. Still not a huge ROI, but I’m not hurting from it anymore. I begin to fine tune the campaigns every day or two, killing off the lowest performing ads and keywords. - The Result
A tentative success. The money isn’t really worth the maintenance at this point, but hopefully it will grow.
I get Rick Rolled for the first time. Life goes on.
- I begin to frequent Wickedfire forums more, and associate more closely with PPC based affiliate marketers. I also begin reading UberAffiliate a fair amount, and picking up on a few tricks, and more importantly what it takes to profit. Sliding around IRC helps a bit to.
- The Concept
- Stage 4: Some Success!
- The Concept
I’m still running this, so forgive me if I’m a bit light on details I give out.
I launch a campaign at location xyz (where I’m doing this, I’ll let your imagination decide) at the urging of Nicky Cakes. I discover a few [moderately nefarious] tricks to compete in an area where few others can, with a high CTR.
Initially, while feeling out which niche to hit with this trick, I’m rupturing money like 300 pound hemophiliac with a 10 inch hole in his stomach does blood.
But then, everything turns around. I hit the right niche! A nice ROI(compared tomy previous attempts), lots of traffic, and it’s love at first click. Currently it’s profiting $250+ per day, with no signs of slowing. I’m a bit afraid of saturating my market, or worse yet gaining attention of other marketers who will emulate my trick, but so far so good. - The Result
I’m flipping out pretty constantly. The rewards are high, but I’m running up massive credit card bill, and fear what will happen if my hosting goes down while I’m asleep. However, it has restored my faith in PPC marketing. It’s a complicated market, but it’s all in the niche, and the rewards can be huge. I realize the need for an LLC here so I can get a business credit card.
- The Concept
What I’ve Learned
Just because you’re comfortable in one area is no good reason to restrict yourself to it. Look at any niche where people are promoting, or running affiliate marketing campaigns. Why are they doing this? Because there’s profit to be had. You may not make as much as them(I’m still light years away from even medium level PPCers) but chances are you can cash in on a decent chunk of the change if you put your mind to it. Restricting yourself does nothing but hurt you, and coming from a background where you’re good at least one kind of marketing, it takes only a bit of ingenuity and effort to learn what you need to turn a profit through other methods. Explore the web, see what you can do.
It’s all in the niche.
Adios Ladies and Gents!
-A very excited(and somewhat humbled) XMCP
PS: I’m looking for some new SEO related articles you guys would like to see. Anything blackhat, standard SEO, or social related is in the ballpark so long as I haven’t covered it a dozen times. Drop a comment and I’ll see what I can do.





















February 22nd, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Didn’t know that you’d had so many meh experiences with PPC before hitting the current niche. Kinda inspiring, given my own PPC failures
http://www.seomoz.org/ugc/failed-experiment-in-ppc-arbitrage
Tough stuff.
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:31 pm
BTW, I see you finally broke 1000 RSS readers! Congratulations man
February 22nd, 2008 at 12:39 pm
It’s all about testing and experimenting! Kudos for taking the steps to learning how to make PPC profitable.
It’s for the exact lessons you described that I started my blog for people new to PPC or SEM as a whole. I’ve just started a weekly “getting back to basics” series to cover all the bare basics from how to have campaign settings setup to keyword research and analysis. If you have any questions in the meantime, please don’t hesitate to email me, and I’ll be happy to walk you through some of the common speedbumps you may not have discovered yet.
February 22nd, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Nice one xmcp. I’ve never tried the PPC game but as soon as I complete some big SEO works I might start. I like to diversify and I’m almost only into SEO lately. Maybe we can chat a bit about it on msn some time.
Doc
February 22nd, 2008 at 7:06 pm
Now that you’ve found a trick that works, you need to go for the jugular and up your budget into the thousands. Watch that shit like a hawk and kill it or scale back wheb your ROI starts to go down. Also get a Starwood Amex card, I did a lenghty write up at my site.
February 22nd, 2008 at 8:12 pm
@Gab: Thanks for noticing!
@dan: I’ll be sure to keep watching
@DocThorn: It’s a worthy investment, definitely. Far more stable it would appear.
@SelfPreneurs: Not getting the trick caught by the powers that be require me to not quite hit the thousands until I fine tune it more.
I’m working on the credit card thing, but I haven’t set up an LLC so I’m not eligible for most business credit cards yet(I’m working on it).
Besides, don’t a lot of places not take american express?
February 22nd, 2008 at 9:25 pm
“I get Rick Rolled for the first time”
Must have been that damn thread at wickedfire. That was my first also.:)
February 23rd, 2008 at 4:19 am
It’s quite easy, you can set one up yourself online in minutes. Just get an EIN from uncle sam = they have a website where you can get one online or over the phone. Once you have your EIN of course you’re in biz. As far as places that take Amex, Adwords, Yahoo Search Marketing and MSN Adcenter have never had a problem running up a shit load of charges on my card. You probably would do well to get an LLC, or better yet a Corp - because once you get the hang of ppc and apply your SEO skills I know you are going to make a killing. What all PPC’ers need is traffic, and you already know how to generate that. Whatever you do, you will definitely want to get a biz credit card, because when you scale up into the thousands per day you can get a decent amount back in rewards. I believe I see a centurion or black card in your future …
February 23rd, 2008 at 5:44 am
Oh yeah which channels in IRC do you frequent that has helped you with PPC? You can shoot me an email info at selfpreneurs dot com. I just added Nicky Cakes’s channel to my favs.
February 23rd, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Congrats on finally getting into DR marketing. Worrying about credit card charges is a small price to pay when u make thousands a day.
February 24th, 2008 at 1:30 am
Cool post. Also, you don’t need an LLC for a business credit card. Sole proprietorship works–I’ve had a business card like that for a while. But yeah, it’d be a good idea to have an LLC anyway because of taxes.
February 24th, 2008 at 8:21 am
Nice post, Shady. We do a fair bit of PPC for clients, but I keep wanting to play with some arbitrage (I find it fascinating). Maybe one day…
On the ‘new stories’ front - what about a ‘grey’ take on reputation management? We write a fair bit about the white-hat side of things (see recent blog posts) but I’d love to peak into the dark side on that area…
Keep up the good work - makes for great reading.
February 24th, 2008 at 11:19 am
Grasshopper learn to hop in tall grass…
February 25th, 2008 at 11:24 am
Wow! Your story is indeed inspiring!..^^..thanks a bunch for sharing it with us that way we also learn new things based on your experience.
February 27th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
Quoting zach above: “Cool post. Also, you don’t need an LLC for a business credit card. Sole proprietorship works–I’ve had a business card like that for a while. But yeah, it’d be a good idea to have an LLC anyway because of taxes.”
He’s right about not needing an LLC for a CC. But an LLC won’t save you a thing on taxes.
Also, great post! I’m working my way through rookiehood on ppc also.
March 2nd, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Dude, I met the sickest guy I’m gonna hook you up with on MSN and stuff. PPC genius and you’re gonna love chatting with him. Met him at the conference and was like “dude! you need to meet my buddy X!”
Anyways, hit me up on msn - we need to chat
April 9th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
I’m also interested in the IRC channels where we can talk about PPC.